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msmap
09-28-2005, 01:24 AM
Got this in an email, thought it was great! :thumbsup:

2 states, 22 observations

Some very interesting observations!


This should stir up some controversy. Things I have noticed while
watching media coverage of the recent hurricanes.

1. Texas: Productive industrious state run by Republicans.

Louisiana: Government dependent welfare state run by Democrats.

2. Texas: Residents take responsibility to protect and evacuate
themselves.

Louisiana: Residents wait for government to protect and evacuate
them.

3. Texas: Local and state officials take responsibility for protecting
their citizens and property.

Louisiana: Local and state officials blame federal government for
not protecting their citizens and property.

4. Texas: Command and control remains in place to preserve order.

Louisiana: Command and control collapses allowing lawlessness.

5. Texas: Law enforcement officers remain on duty to protect city.

Louisiana: Law enforcement officers desert their posts to protect
themselves.

6. Texas: Local police watch for looting.

Louisiana: Local police participate in looting.

7. Texas: Law and order remains in control, 8 looters tried it, 8
looters arrested.

Louisiana: Anarchy and lawlessness breaks out, looters take over
city, no arrests, criminals with guns have to be shot by federal troops.

8. Texas: Considerable damage caused by hurricane.

Louisiana: Considerable damage caused by looters.

9. Texas: Flood barriers hold preventing cities from flooding.

Louisiana: Flood barriers fail due to lack of maintenance allowing
city to flood.

10. Texas: Orderly evacuation away from threatened areas, few remain.

Louisiana: 25,000 fail to evacuate, are relocated to another
flooded area.

11. Texas: Citizens evacuate with personal 3 day supply of food and
water.

Louisiana: Citizens fail to evacuate with 3 day supply of food
and water, do without it for the next 4 days.

12. Texas: FEMA brings in tons of food and water for evacuees. State
officials provide accessible distribution points.

Louisiana: FEMA brings in tons of food and water for evacuees.
State officials prevent citizens from reaching distribution points and vice
versa.

13. Louisiana: Media focuses on poor blacks in need of assistance,
blames Bush.

Texas: Media can't find poor blacks in need of assistance,
looking for something else to blame on Bush.

14. Texas: Coastal cities suffer some infrastructure damage, Mayors tell
residents to stay away until ready for repopulation, no interference from
federal officials.

Louisiana: New Orleans is destroyed, Mayor asks residents to
return home as another hurricane approaches, has to be overruled by federal
officials.

15. Louisiana: Over 400 killed by storm, flooding and crime.

Texas: 24 killed in bus accident on highway during evacuation,
no storm related deaths.

16. Texas: Jailed prisoners are relocated to other detention facilities
outside the storm area.

Louisiana: Jailed prisoners are set free to prey on city shops,
residents, and homes.

17. Texas: Local and state officials work with FEMA and Red Cross in
recovery operations.

Louisiana: Local and state officials obstruct FEMA and Red Cross
from aiding in recovery operations.

18. Texas: Local and state officials demonstrate leadership in managing
disaster areas.

Louisiana: Local and state officials fail to demonstrate
leadership, require federal government to manage disaster areas.

19. Texas: Fuel deliveries can't keep up with demand, some run out of
gas on highway, need help from fuel tankers before storm arrives.

Louisiana: Motorists wait till storm hits and electrical power
fails. Cars run out of gas at gas stations that can't pump gas. Gas in
underground tanks mixes with flood waters.

20. Texas: Mayors move citizens out of danger.

Louisiana: Mayor moves himself and family to Dallas.

21. Texas: Mayors continue public service announcements and updates on
television with Governor's backing and support.

Louisiana: Mayor cusses, governor cries, senator threatens
president with violence on television, none of them have a clue what went
wrong or who's responsible.

22. Louisiana: Democratic Senator says FEMA was slow in responding to
911 calls from Louisiana citizens.

Texas: Republican Senator says "when you call 911, the phone
doesn't ring in Washington, it rings here at the local responders".


What if state and local elected officials were forced to depend on
themselves and their own resources instead of calling for help from the
federal government? Texas cities would be back up and running in a few days.
Louisiana cities would still be under water next month. Republicans call for
action, Democrats call for help.

cobrapace94
09-28-2005, 03:43 AM
So true in so many ways.
Viva la "Republic of Texas"....

Mephisto
09-28-2005, 09:53 AM
I think I have boiled the lessons of Katrina vrs. Rita down to one simple plan

It's not pre-position assests for rapid response, blah,blah ,blah

It's not better coordination of comand and control, blah,blah,blah

It's not improve evacuation plans, blah,blah,blah

It is simply, regardless of political party, do not elect an idiot to be your leader and expect effective leadership.

ORANGE CRUSH
09-28-2005, 03:17 PM
Soooooo True.

03 cobra toy
09-28-2005, 04:05 PM
:thumbsup: DON'T GET ME STARTED......

cobltng
09-28-2005, 05:21 PM
How true...sad.....but true.

kencobra
09-28-2005, 09:54 PM
You nailed it !

Josh968
09-28-2005, 10:01 PM
I think I have boiled the lessons of Katrina vrs. Rita down to one simple plan

It's not pre-position assests for rapid response, blah,blah ,blah

It's not better coordination of comand and control, blah,blah,blah

It's not improve evacuation plans, blah,blah,blah

It is simply, regardless of political party, do not elect an idiot to be your leader and expect effective leadership.

Maybe, but Kerry sure as heck wouldn't have done any better. He'd probably be telling us about the many plans he has, but no details or specifics and sure as hell no action.

Admiral
09-29-2005, 10:13 AM
I thought Mephisto was referring to those who elected Edith Bunker, err, I mean Gov. Blanco? ;)

Andy M
09-29-2005, 02:29 PM
Well, if we disregard our own personal political preferences and attitudes and just look at the facts... We certainly had a MASSIVE (epic proportions!!) breakdown (at local, state AND federal levels) during the Katrina event in New Orleans. Too much finger pointing and not enough action in my opinion.

I have to admit, I for one, am very proud of the leadership our local government (in the Houston area) showed during Rita. Although we had some glitches, I would give a passing grade to our preparedness and execution. We just need to re-evaluate the fuel and water problems for next time.

As for Republican or Democrat, let's face it, the events surrounding the latest natural disasters have caused Americans to re-evaluate our priorities and fundamental ways of thinking. I personally feel that local and state government (with strong support from the federal govt) have ultimate responsibility for formulating plans and general preparedness for natural disasters.

One last thing... I agree with Mike Brown's assessment that government in Louisiana is definitely dysfunctional!! I can say that because I am from there and have witnessed it first hand. Of course, Nagin and Blanco are quick to blame the federal government. I think they need to look in the mirror first!

Ok, off my soapbox now.

Carl G
09-30-2005, 05:43 PM
Sherri you nailed it. Great stuff, and I still consider Lousiana a third world state. :thumbsup:

ORANGE CRUSH
09-30-2005, 06:13 PM
Well, if we disregard our own personal political preferences and attitudes and just look at the facts... We certainly had a MASSIVE (epic proportions!!) breakdown (at local, state AND federal levels) during the Katrina event in New Orleans. Too much finger pointing and not enough action in my opinion.

I have to admit, I for one, am very proud of the leadership our local government (in the Houston area) showed during Rita. Although we had some glitches, I would give a passing grade to our preparedness and execution. We just need to re-evaluate the fuel and water problems for next time.

As for Republican or Democrat, let's face it, the events surrounding the latest natural disasters have caused Americans to re-evaluate our priorities and fundamental ways of thinking. I personally feel that local and state government (with strong support from the federal govt) have ultimate responsibility for formulating plans and general preparedness for natural disasters.

One last thing... I agree with Mike Brown's assessment that government in Louisiana is definitely dysfunctional!! I can say that because I am from there and have witnessed it first hand. Of course, Nagin and Blanco are quick to blame the federal government. I think they need to look in the mirror first!

Ok, off my soapbox now.


Amen Brotha.