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flynfink
03-11-2003, 05:13 PM
Originally posted this on the Tech Mailing list so if you've already seen it..

Hey All,

Got a problem w/ my 94' and I'm looking for some
suggestions.

I'll be driving down the road and it just quits, like the
ignition was turned off. I can't find any rhyme or reason.

When it happens, sometimes it will restart right away and
sometimes it won't. When it won't there's plenty of
battery, it will crank over just fine.

I went to my office this AM (all interstate) and about 5
min. into the drive it shut off (tach dropped to zero and
then picked up again. a few minutes later, it did it again
but didn't pick up and I had to pull over. It would crank
but not start. A few minutes later I started when I tried.
I just bought the car and the fuel was low so I drove about
5 miles and got gas. Pulled away from the pump and it died.
Got it started again after a few tries, pulled out onto the
street and it did it again. after a few tries, it refired.
Drove to work and it ran great, drove home no problem. The
check engine light is not on, but I went to Autozone to see
if they could pull any code, they hooked it up and said
there where none. I went for a drive in the country this
afternoon and had no problem, this thing real runs well for
a stock 94'. My son went to leave this evening, and it did
it to him leaving the driveway.

BTW, I have checked and cleaned the battery terminals,
there's plent of fuel.

Followup- Was suggested that it was the Ignition Module. Had it checked at Autozone, it tested ok. One of our members said it might test good, to replace it anyway. Will do that when I get home (i'm currently in Roanoke,VA) and change fuel filter for good measure. Was also told to replace hall effect indistibutor..


Anything else I'm missing?

95Cobra
03-11-2003, 08:17 PM
I would be looking at the fuel pump! Can you hear it when it's running? The ign. module was never a problem with the 94 and up models, once they moved it from the side of the dist.to the inner fender. How many miles on your Cobra?
You need to test fuel presure and leak down of presure after the engine is off.
Mark

flynfink
03-11-2003, 09:22 PM
It just doesn't feel like a fuel issue, no stumble. It just shut off, like right now.

STU
03-12-2003, 07:46 AM
Jeff, I'll bet money your problem is in the distributor. I know of another who had problems like you describe and his stator was bad.

Good Luck

flynfink
03-12-2003, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by STU
Jeff, I'll bet money your problem is in the distributor. I know of another who had problems like you describe and his stator was bad.

Good Luck

Thanks Dave.

You planing on coming to Dragon Run III?

cobrapace94
03-12-2003, 08:29 AM
It does sound like electical, I would start with the igintion module, then may be the stator in the distributor, then the coil, coils can get hot and quit working till it cools (been there before). Try those 3 things.
My 94 Cobra started to cut out some, while taking off, it acts like someone cuts the iginition for 1 second, coil 1 year old, could be the FRPP extender or igintion module or stator.
Good luck.

STU
03-12-2003, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by flynfink
Thanks Dave.

You planing on coming to Dragon Run III?

I hope to but am not sure yet. My wife is in an accounting department where she works and that falls at the time of fiscal year end. Her boss is not fond of her taking time off then.

Spiffy668
03-12-2003, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by cobrapace94

My 94 Cobra started to cut out some, while taking off, it acts like someone cuts the iginition for 1 second, coil 1 year old, could be the FRPP extender or igintion module or stator.
Good luck.

I had this problem and the timing on the car was waaaaaay off. A friend and I played with it and we had to crank it to 20 degrees before it even started to run right. :eek: needles to say, we moved it back down. I'd look at the coil and distributor. Might not be a bad thing to replace the fuel filter either, just in case.

STU
03-31-2003, 10:02 AM
Jeff, did you find your problem yet?

flynfink
03-31-2003, 11:02 AM
Hey Dave, no not yet. It's so intermittant. My son has had it happen twice in two weeks and the car restarts after a few minutes. Plenty of battery. I have two theories about what it may be.

1) Ignition switch - the switch has plenty of wear, without the key in, you can still turn the switch, not enough to start it, but enough to get the key in chime going.

2) and most likely. A previous owner had an aftermarket alarm. It was removed. When my son and I had the drivers side kick panel off to run wires for his subwoofer amp, the wiring under the panel looks like a mess. I need to find a color wiring diagram and get it cleaned up. Is there a small electrical box there or is the box the actual alarm? I think that there's a probably an intermittent open in the ignition shutoff circuit causing the problem.

Thanks,


Oh BTW, my son spun the car avoiding someone that pulled out in front of him and cleaned the passanger side mirror off, broke the right from turn signal lens and cracked the front bumper cover down low (and also put some new scratches in the body. Got a line on some decent prices on replacement parts (at least the mirror and trun indicator, the bumper will wait till this summer when he're earned enough money to fix it and have it painted)?

Spiffy668
03-31-2003, 12:55 PM
2) and most likely. A previous owner had an aftermarket alarm. It was removed. When my son and I had the drivers side kick panel off to run wires for his subwoofer amp, the wiring under the panel looks like a mess. I need to find a color wiring diagram and get it cleaned up. Is there a small electrical box there or is the box the actual alarm? I think that there's a probably an intermittent open in the ignition shutoff circuit causing the problem.

From talking to you Sat, I think this is where you need to start your search. I had an alarm in my Z28 that a previous owner had, with no remote. Once the battery died, the alarm went nuts Had to disconnect it totally and no more problem. I think that box may be your alarm "brain". You might want to check it out, should have the name of the alarm as well as a wire color listing (remote door lock, shock sensor, ign., etc.) somewhere on that box. If it is the brain, hopefully they installed it using a wire harness, if not, then you may have a rather large wiring project on your hands. :(

flynfink
04-09-2003, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by STU
Jeff, I'll bet money your problem is in the distributor. I know of another who had problems like you describe and his stator was bad.

Good Luck

Dave wins, Took it to Ford and thats what they found... Thanks all..

STU
04-11-2003, 07:29 AM
Everyone gets in a lucky guess once in awhile. Glad you found the problem.:thumbsup:

flynfink
04-11-2003, 08:54 AM
Yeah, well we replaced the Ignition module, didn't fix it
Cleaned up the wires from the old alarm system, didn't fix it.
I died in my street in front of two other SCMC members and I pulled the coil wire and had him crank it and we had spark, so I said ok, must be fuel, put the coil wire back on and it fired right up.. So

We replaced the fuel filter (had it in the garage) hoping. It didn't fix it.

Took it to my dealer (Young Ford in CHA) and we got lucky, it did it while the tech was pulling it into the bay.. $220 later and no phone calls from my son that he's sitting on the side of the road..

johnbasf
04-11-2003, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by flynfink

Took it to my dealer (Young Ford in CHA) and we got lucky, it did it while the tech was pulling it into the bay.. $220 later and no phone calls from my son that he's sitting on the side of the road.. [/B]

Priceless!!!:thumbsup:

STU
04-11-2003, 04:39 PM
Now if I can get you to drive the 94 on the Dragon, I might be able to keep up with you. :D

flynfink
04-12-2003, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by STU
Now if I can get you to drive the 94 on the Dragon, I might be able to keep up with you. :D

Hey Dave, I'm hopeful my son will join us with it for the Dragon Run..
Catch ya L8TR