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John Chingasos
08-24-2004, 11:48 AM
This is an email that I received from a friend because they know I live close to Willowbrook mall


From: "Sandy Higgins" >

>Subject: Fw: Willowbrook Mall

>Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 20:03:31 -0500




>>I am sending this out to let everyone know that the violence at
Willowbrook Mall has gotten worse and we need to be very careful. This is
not a forward of an e-mail sent to me. These are my actual words.

>My brother and his girlfriend were at Willowbrook Mall last night

>(8/9/04) in the parking lot getting into my brothers car. Another
vehicle with 4 men inside, pulled up behind them, 2 of the men got out and
put a gun to my brothers head and demanded that he and his girlfriend get
into the back seat of the car (my brothers own car).

>The other car followed as they were then driven to another location,
where my brother was beaten, and they were left. They stole my brothers
wallet, cell phone, his girl friend's purse, and of course the car. They
must not have noticed that when they pulled up to them in the parking lot,
that my brothers girl friend was on her cell phone.

>Once everything started happening, she hid the cell phone on her person,
so that they wouldn't find it. Her quick thinking gave them help after the
4 men drove off. Unfortunately, they were so traumatized that neither one
knew where they were. They were able to make to an intersection they
recognized and called for help. The police found my brothers car this
morning. The car had been stripped and set on fire. It is a complete loss.

>I am only telling you this so that you are aware of how bold these people
are getting. We all know that the gang violence is heating up at
Willowbrook. Well, they are now taking things a step further. My brother
was not alone walking out to his car. They are targeting anyone, not just
people alone. Please, be very careful at Willowbrook.

>Go during daylight hours and please be aware of your surroundings.

>Be safe!

>Cissi Barber

Evilcartman
08-24-2004, 01:48 PM
This is an email that I received from a friend because they know I live close to Willowbrook mall


From: "Sandy Higgins" >

>Subject: Fw: Willowbrook Mall

>Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 20:03:31 -0500




>>I am sending this out to let everyone know that the violence at
Willowbrook Mall has gotten worse and we need to be very careful. This is
not a forward of an e-mail sent to me. These are my actual words.

>My brother and his girlfriend were at Willowbrook Mall last night

>(8/9/04) in the parking lot getting into my brothers car. Another
vehicle with 4 men inside, pulled up behind them, 2 of the men got out and
put a gun to my brothers head and demanded that he and his girlfriend get
into the back seat of the car (my brothers own car).

>The other car followed as they were then driven to another location,
where my brother was beaten, and they were left. They stole my brothers
wallet, cell phone, his girl friend's purse, and of course the car. They
must not have noticed that when they pulled up to them in the parking lot,
that my brothers girl friend was on her cell phone.

>Once everything started happening, she hid the cell phone on her person,
so that they wouldn't find it. Her quick thinking gave them help after the
4 men drove off. Unfortunately, they were so traumatized that neither one
knew where they were. They were able to make to an intersection they
recognized and called for help. The police found my brothers car this
morning. The car had been stripped and set on fire. It is a complete loss.

>I am only telling you this so that you are aware of how bold these people
are getting. We all know that the gang violence is heating up at
Willowbrook. Well, they are now taking things a step further. My brother
was not alone walking out to his car. They are targeting anyone, not just
people alone. Please, be very careful at Willowbrook.

>Go during daylight hours and please be aware of your surroundings.

>Be safe!

>Cissi Barber


That sucks. Good thing when I carry, I put my gun behind the seat. They would have been pissed had they put me in the back seat and I had my gun right there. Things like this make me glad I go through the trouble of lugging that thing around. He is lucky they just beat him and dumped them.

Levi
08-24-2004, 05:00 PM
Lock and Load. :blast:

Josh968
08-24-2004, 05:46 PM
Somebody on Extreme Fords knows the guy.

What bugs me is that you will probably need your gun somewhere between the mall and your car, yet you can't carry in the mall.

F@#k it, I don't like malls anyway.

Evilcartman
08-24-2004, 06:21 PM
Somebody on Extreme Fords knows the guy.

What bugs me is that you will probably need your gun somewhere between the mall and your car, yet you can't carry in the mall.

F@#k it, I don't like malls anyway.


Do they have the legal sign posted at the mall?

97CasperCobra
08-24-2004, 06:32 PM
I've got a few girl-friends who work at the mall.....this isn't good.

John Chingasos
08-24-2004, 07:16 PM
I've got a few girl-friends who work at the mall.....this isn't good.


For a poor guy you sure live La Vida Loca ;)

Codes
08-24-2004, 07:26 PM
Jesus, it sucks...I am old enough to vote...I am old enough to fight for our country, yet I am not old enough to carry a concealed weapon. Thanks for the heads up, I will not be going there anymore.

Josh968
08-24-2004, 07:35 PM
Do they have the legal sign posted at the mall?

Now that you ask, I'm not sure. I tought I remembered there being signs.

Katy Mills Mall definitely has signs at their entrances, but NOT at the entrance to Bass Pro. Hmmmmmmmm...

Bartman01
08-24-2004, 10:29 PM
Do they have the legal sign posted at the mall?

What difference does that sign really make? Last I knew (and I might have bad info) the only thing they can really do is ask you to leave if you violate the sign. And given that if you are carrying in accordance with the law the weapon is concealed no-one will know anyway.

Twice Bitten
08-25-2004, 12:51 AM
Do they have the legal sign posted at the mall?


I would not worry about it, the only place you would get into serious trouble is at a place that gets most of its income from alcohol sales or a bank.

Evilcartman
08-25-2004, 10:00 AM
What difference does that sign really make? Last I knew (and I might have bad info) the only thing they can really do is ask you to leave if you violate the sign. And given that if you are carrying in accordance with the law the weapon is concealed no-one will know anyway.


I agree and it has never stopped me. I was just wondering why Josh said that he couldn't carry there. Itís better to visit the court house with your family safe then funeral of a family member. The rules are strange with the CHL. You can't carry it in certain places, but it's illegal to let it be seen, so how do they know?

I can't really understand why it should be concealed. Letting the gun be visible is a deterrent and can avoid confrontations. I guess they don't want the general public to be afraid of other people walking around with guns. We could all turn in to John Wayne and walk around with our hip holsters.

Josh968
08-25-2004, 10:22 AM
Last I knew (and I might have bad info) the only thing they can really do is ask you to leave if you violate the sign.

Part of the problem is that there seems to be so much conflicting info out there. As an example (and Iheard both of these second-hand), I was told that the DA for Harris County had said he would NOT prosecute if you were inadvertentley "un-concealed." A friend just took the CHL instructors class in Austin, and the attorney teaching the legal stuff said she would do everything possible to nail your hide in the same situation.

Then you've got HOoters, which has signs, but they are not the legal ones. Screw 'em, I still carried in there. Now I've been told that all they have to do is inform you, either verbally or in writing, that firearms aren't welcome. So now I'm trespassing. But then I've had Hooters girls put their arm around my waist a couple of times, and I KNOW they felt my .45, but they didn't say ****. Maybe they tought it was my cell phone :D

Anyway, the whole point of this is I need to go back and read the laws again.

Bartman01
08-26-2004, 02:05 AM
Part of the problem is that there seems to be so much conflicting info out there.

Well I looked at the FAQ on the official Texas website and it did state that if convicted of criminal trespass for carrying your weapon where signs are posted you will have your license revoked.

Twice Bitten
08-26-2004, 07:32 AM
My CHL is found in the Bill of Rights, the 2nd admendment. It is displayed all over the nations capitol and used to be taught in "PUBLIC" (as tater salad calls it) schools!!!! :thumbsup: :eek: :rolleyes: :doubt:

Firme
08-26-2004, 10:28 AM
But then I've had Hooters girls put their arm around my waist a couple of times, and I KNOW they felt my .45,



:rotf: sorry that made me laugh