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Mesarina
12-17-2004, 03:13 PM
Hi I am gettin a Cobra soon but i have some options and i would like you to help me decide which one is the best for me, since i want to race it sometimes


Here are my options

2001 Mustang Cobra 12kmiles, coupe, midnight blue (is this a rare color?) bassani Xpipes and catback, steeda springs. he is asking $18k
1999 Mustang Cobra 38kmiles convertible stock $16k

or should i wait for other to come for sale?

i also have some questions

Does all cobras comes with a 5spd tranny or is there any automatic
How many 2001 midnight blue Cobras where released?
Is it true that some 96-98 cobras where faster in stock form than the 99?
Any fact about the 2001 Cobra would be apreciated

And check my 66 Mustang, i just installed the sidepipes, and in this photo i am starting a burnout :thumbsup: http://www.gtstreetracing.com/events/041204_7meetgtsr-velmax/images/DSC06216.jpg

Abneriel
12-17-2004, 04:21 PM
If you are planning on possible racing go with the 2001 hands down over the 99. For one...it has less miles/wear. The 99 is a 'vert which is NOT what you want in racing...more weight, less aerodynamics, more chassis flex with a vert.

All Cobras come with manual transmissions...no automatics...the 01 (I believe) has the T-45 5 speed tranny.

The only way the 96-98 Cobras would be quicker/faster in the 1320 over a 99 is if the 99 needed the fix and hadn't gotten it. Other than that the 99-01 Cobras are quicker/faster in the 1320 despite the IRS.

Now for some basic info about the car:

the 99 and 2001 Cobras use a different aluminum block and heads than the teksid block and "B" or "swirlport" heads of the 96-98 Cobras. The heads of the 99-01 are known as "tumbleport" or "C" heads and are better for naturally aspirated applications over the "B" heads used previously as they provide more low end grunt over the "B" heads. The 99-01 Cobras are both rated at 320 HP and 317 TQ and usually run around mid 13s in the 1320. These Cobras are also the first to utilize an IRS in a mustang. For those wanting a drag car this setup is not ideal and should be swapped out for a solid rear. Those wanting something for the twisties should be good to go though. The clutch was upgraded to an 11" setup in 99. The 13" front and 11.65" rear rotors, although they carry the same specs, were upgraded to Brembo in 99 (less prone to warping than the 94-98 versions).

Firme
12-17-2004, 04:35 PM
...the 01 (I believe) has the T-45 5 speed tranny.
99 Cobra = T-45
01 Cobra = T-3650

in 2001 there were 608 True Blue (the color you are talking about) Cobra, 316 Coupes, 292 Convertibles.

True blue is one of the rarest colors on a Cobra (actually any blue in general is low production in any given year)

Abneriel covered your other questions.

I would get the 2001. Also, the IRS in 99 is 28 spline, the 2001 is 31 spline. This make the IRS in 01 stronger.

If all you want to do is 1/4 mile racing, you might want to waint and find a cheap 96-98. If you get lucky, you could find one with a forged motor and a blower for cheap. But then you run the risk of getting a car that has a quitionable future depending on its previous owner.

Abneriel
12-18-2004, 04:28 AM
99 Cobra = T-45
01 Cobra = T-3650
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thanks for clarifying...I thought they didn't go to the 3650 until mid 02...guess I was wrong :p

Firme
12-18-2004, 10:50 AM
thanks for clarifying...I thought they didn't go to the 3650 until mid 02...guess I was wrong :p
no problem... on the Cobras all 01s are T-3650, but GT's the first half of the 01 model year runs where T-45, and the second half of the run was T-3650.

Butcher
12-20-2004, 01:02 AM
Hi I am gettin a Cobra soon but i have some options and i would like you to help me decide which one is the best for me, since i want to race it sometimes


Here are my options

2001 Mustang Cobra 12kmiles, coupe, midnight blue (is this a rare color?) bassani Xpipes and catback, steeda springs. he is asking $18k
1999 Mustang Cobra 38kmiles convertible stock $16k

or should i wait for other to come for sale?


And check my 66 Mustang, i just installed the sidepipes, and in this photo i am starting a burnout :thumbsup: http://www.gtstreetracing.com/events/041204_7meetgtsr-velmax/images/DSC06216.jpg
I was admiring your car and then realised Holy Sheepdip, he listed his location as Guatemala. If you're located in Guatemala, you've done really fine work on your car. Sharp and clean.:thumbsup:

Very impressive, considering your locale. :D

Jimmie

Mesarina
12-20-2004, 02:50 PM
thanks a lot, i think im going to see what happens with the blue one, if everything goes ok ill have it in january or february.


Hey Jimmie, thanks and here in Guatemala we have a little of something. here you can see EVO, Skyline,2003 Cobra, M3, M5, early Fords (30-40s), ferraris, maseratis etc.. :eek::thumbsup: the bad news is that last saturday a Nissan NX (plastic car) crashed in the left fender and door of my stang :mad:

Why Try?
12-21-2004, 01:50 PM
id stay away from the 99 vert, i had a 94 vert and besides more wieght i had two new tops in 1 year due to theft (easy to cut open) :mad:

flynfink
12-21-2004, 02:47 PM
id stay away from the 99 vert, i had a 94 vert and besides more wieght i had two new tops in 1 year due to theft (easy to cut open) :mad:

Thread hi-jack - if ya have a vert, ya don't leave anything valuable inside...didn't learn the first time??
I have a 99 Vert, and it has the original top. my 93 that I sold in 2000 also had an original top. They do weigh a bit more (approx. 300 Lbs. I think) but when the weather is nice, topless is the only way to go..

My $0.02

All said, the 2001 also has better seats than the 1999. But, there's no rio red in 2001............

ausie
12-22-2004, 10:19 AM
I would probably stick with the 2001 over the 99. The higher spline count on the rear half shafts is a plus. However, some may experience pining issues due to insufficient cooling around the 6, 7, and 8 cylinders causing the valves to overheat and not seat correctly. I believe there is a Tech Service Bulletin that addresses that issue for replacement of the head with one that has improved coolant passages. I am not quite sure how many of them were affected since it was associated with both the 99, 01, and early 03 models. My 01 pinged like hell on occasion (usually when the motor was up to operating temperature) which I thought may have been associated with the fuel. I took it into ford having only 16k miles on it and they refused to address the pinging issue. Other than that, the car was a great screamer which had 31k miles on it when I traded it in for an 04 SVT. I believe that Apten has a fix for the cooling issue as well which does not require any head replacements. If you are contemplating on replacing the IRS with a solid axle, perhaps an 03 Mach 1 would be a wise choice. It has very much the same motor as the 01 SVT perhaps a little shy on the (-15) HP but it does have a bit more torque 320 @ 4200 rpm. The final drive ratio is 3.55:1 as compared to the 01 SVT 3.27:1 . The mach 1 also has an option for an automatic trans. I would rather stick with the SVT though.

Abneriel
12-22-2004, 12:35 PM
If you are contemplating on replacing the IRS with a solid axle, perhaps an 03 Mach 1 would be a wise choice. It has very much the same motor as the 01 SVT perhaps a little shy on the (-15) HP but it does have a bit more torque 320 @ 4200 rpm. The final drive ratio is 3.55:1 as compared to the 01 SVT 3.27:1 . The mach 1 also has an option for an automatic trans. I would rather stick with the SVT though.
I believe the Mach was underrated from the factory...much like your 04 Cobra ;)

they consistently run better times stock to stock than the 99-01 Cobra does as well...I'm with you on sticking with SVT though :thumbsup: