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JenRem
12-30-2004, 08:23 AM
I want to upgrade my intake, so what options do I have? I think most people go with a cold air induction setup, but is there something better with a reasonable cost? I know RAI is an option, but are they better than CAI, and how much are they? Iíve done some research on cold air induction and I found a Roush Racing kit for about $200, that a couple of people have recommended. Anyone have any experience with these? Iíve been told they are better than the MAC and K&N kits, and I know they donít cost nearly as much as the BBK kit. I donít need a polished tube anyway, because I want it for go, not show. What do you all think? Thanks!!!

Jen
:D

NewFoundPower
12-30-2004, 11:18 AM
Try www.jlttruecoldair.com (http://www.jlttruecoldair.com). They have one of the best CAI and it is very affordable. On the Terminators there is a gain of about 20rwhp!!! Great bang for the buck.

-D-

Firme
12-30-2004, 11:54 AM
Try www.jlttruecoldair.com (http://www.jlttruecoldair.com). They have one of the best CAI and it is very affordable. On the Terminators there is a gain of about 20rwhp!!! Great bang for the buck.

-D-

I actually had an RAI painted mineral grey that I bought from JLT that I have to send back because it will not go on the car with my MM strut tower brace.

Another really nice system I found was the Tunable Inductions (http://www.demolet.com/) (aka Densecharger (http://www.demolet.com/) ) they seem to get really good gains also.


WMS (http://www.wmsracing.com/wmsweb/tubes.htm) is another to check out.


on the flip side, the Mac, BBK, and K&N I would not recommend, and I have honestly never seen anyone run or heard anything good about the Roush unit for an 01 Cobra

Abneriel
12-30-2004, 08:22 PM
I I know RAI is an option, but are they better than CAI, and how much are they?

I was thinking about picking up an RAI from JLT simply due to the heavy rains + the fact that I'll just pull the headlight when I go to the track anyway...but on their website it says it might rub...something to think about before purchasing.

www.jlttruecoldair.com has the prices on theirs. Many cobra owners claim they're the best when it comes to CAI/RAI's.

Cobra4me
12-30-2004, 08:33 PM
I noticed you mentioned the tunable induction system, What do you think about the meter forward system or do you recommend the full length system? By the way I too have 01 mineral gray coupe like yours but with less mods

Lumpydogs
12-30-2004, 08:55 PM
2001 Mineral Grey Cobra Coupes ROCK! :D

JenRem
12-31-2004, 09:43 AM
Thanks for the suggestions, guys! I actually ordered the Roush kit, and it came in yesterday. When I tried to install it I realized that it would not work because the opening in the throttle body is oval, and the kit had a round piece. The guy at the store said it only came in round??!!? So back to the store it went. On the way home, I saw an '03 - no - I HEARD an '03 pull into a gas station so I followed him in. He had a Bassani system on the car and a bunch of other goodies, and he was on the way to get the car dynoed. He said that Roush filed for bankruptcy last year or so and that is why he would not buy anything from Roush. By the way, I am recruiting anyone I can to the website!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

So...now I have a store credit and I will see if they carry any of your suggestions. They also suggested lowering springs, etc, but I want to get my horsepower-goodies before I do anything that is simply cosmetic.

Hey now...don't forget the mineral grey VERT!

Firme
12-31-2004, 10:40 AM
Hey now...don't forget the mineral grey VERT! :vampsmileMineral Grey 01's OWN this thread :vampsmile

<!--StartFragment -->I am recruiting anyone I can to the website!
SWEET, you rock :headbang:
now you need to start recruiting them to become members of the club itself and help grow it :D


<!--StartFragment -->Thanks for the suggestions, guys! I actually ordered the Roush kit, and it came in yesterday. When I tried to install it I realized that it would not work because the opening in the throttle body is oval, and the kit had a round piece. The guy at the store said it only came in round??!!?............ He said that Roush filed for bankruptcy last year or so and that is why he would not buy anything from Roush.

on the flip side, the Mac, BBK, and K&N I would not recommend, and I have honestly never seen anyone run or heard anything good about the Roush unit for an 01 CobraWell the round opening means that is was a cold air for the GT not the Cobra. Almost ALL Roushs are GT's.

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So...now I have a store credit and I will see if they carry any of your suggestions. They also suggested lowering springs, etc, but I want to get my horsepower-goodies before I do anything that is simply cosmetic.
Lowering springs are cool, but get whatever you want, not what they recommend. What store is it, we might be able to help find you more go fast goodies, even if it ain't a CAI. Btw, thats messed up that they gave you store credit instead of a full refund since they misled you into buying something without knowing if the product would even work on you vehicle. I mean not bothering to check if it a GT kit or a Cobra kit is a big indicator of incompetence on their part.

Abneriel
12-31-2004, 10:48 AM
:vampsmileMineral Grey 01's OWN this thread :vampsmile
I feel so left out :(

Firme
12-31-2004, 11:04 AM
I feel so left out :(
I've got a can of Mineral Grey paint, lets get to work :jk:

alright, alright, we'll make you an honorary mineral grey owner. :D


I noticed you mentioned the tunable induction system, What do you think about the meter forward system or do you recommend the full length system? By the way I too have 01 mineral gray coupe like yours but with less mods
:headbang: sweet car man :thumbsup:

Their meter forward system is really nice (the System # 4: Part # 960246MF (http://www.demolet.com/specs.htm)) which is the "densecharger" to the old school guys. The full lenth is ideal, but marginal since there is prolly only gonna be a 2-3hp difference. The 85mm Pro-m MAF is a big piece to that puzzle too, it will up your gains. A little birdy told me that a 90mm for the 01's might be on the horizon, but you can always get that later after buying the CAI now.

Another option you can get from em is the Metco type setup. Its not an in fender like the system above, but its a under hood with an exposed filter. The filter shield might come out in the future for the 01's also, as right now they offer the Metco CF one for the 03/04's http://www.demolet.com/img/sys10-11-206s.jpg

Cobra4me
12-31-2004, 10:54 PM
well if you can only get 2/3 HP for the densecharger full length system then what are you going to get out of a meter forward system. What i am looking for is a CAI that will give me results, not cost an arm and a leg. and will not take me awhole day to install. HELP
RobK

NewFoundPower
01-01-2005, 11:54 AM
Firme, what don't you like about the K&N FIPK? Lately I have heard really good things about it and it makes the same hp claims as the JLT with an easier install and maintenance.


-D-

Firme
01-01-2005, 02:43 PM
Firme, what don't you like about the K&N FIPK? Lately I have heard really good things about it and it makes the same hp claims as the JLT with an easier install and maintenance.


-D-On an 03/04, yes the FIPK has shown good results and is a competitor, but we are talking about a N/A 2001 Cobra, and I have seen mixed reviews there, and the gains were not as much as the others. Couple that with the fact that K&N filters, although real popular in the aftermarket, have had test showing it is really not as good a filter as the S&B or the Green Filter (Don't take that the wrong way, its still a great filter overall but its not 1st choice, also, is it just me or did K&N change from lifetime 1 million mile warranty to a 10 yr 1 million mile warranty? kinda odd). JLT and WMS use S&B, Tunable Induction uses Green Filters. :dunno: I mean I am speaking strictly of my opinion, what I have seen 1st hand, and experienced, be assured there is other opinions out there:

Firme
01-01-2005, 02:56 PM
well if you can only get 2/3 HP for the densecharger full length system then what are you going to get out of a meter forward system. What i am looking for is a CAI that will give me results, not cost an arm and a leg. and will not take me awhole day to install. HELP
RobKSee the thing that makes this all so difficult is there are too many variables. Your overall mods make such a big difference on how a single mod gives you gains. Its a "combo" that yields results instead of 1 single piece.

(sticking to N/A here) If you have a bone stock Cobra, and you stick a CAI on it, it can give you 5hp 3rwtq. You might be dissapointed. Then you go out and get exhaust that is supposed to give you 7hp 10rwtq, and you end up gaining 15hp, 13rwtq. Did the exhaust exceed expectations? no, not really, its the exhaust coupled with the CAI that yielded the results. The CAI was not showing its true gains till you freed up the exhaust. (hypothetically speaking of course)

Same goes with someone, with a ton of mods, putting on a CAI and getting 12hp out of it.

So answering your question is kinda difficult. You could see up to 9-12hp from the meter forward kit as opposed to 12-15 with the full, but that depends on your overall combo. The MAF also plays a role once you get mods on there. Especially on a 01, the meter is more of a restricution than the 03 due to the design change.

What I look at is people that get results with combo's and what they run. Tunable Inductions, WMS, and now JLT are some that always appear on a mod list of guys showing big power. I have also seen custom made CAI do the same, so, base your picks off design, coupled with what you think looks good on your engine if you care about that. Alot of these companies are similar with 1 or 2 things different. One might have a better under hood kit, and the other have a better in Fender...etc. At the most, you will be 2-3 h.p. off down the line. Just remember, the metal tubing can hold heat, unlike the Tunable Induction and the JLT.

FYI, there is JLT vs. Tunable Induction shootout comming soon from what I hear.

smashedheadcat
01-01-2005, 03:21 PM
I'm not a fan of the densecharger system. My reason is this: The maf is designed to meter air coming from the filter..... not through the filter, in a tube, around the corner, and then into the engine. The only CAI kit I like is the JLT cai, and the old morpheus powerpipe (out of business). These kits are put the MAF in the fenderwell where the airfilter can attach directly to it. Thus elimiating crappy idling, and tuning difficulty. On my '03 cobra, I went with the MAC straigh shot cai. This has a heat shield, (not needed IMO, but whatever), a 4 inch MAF (again, not needed), and a big open filter. I'll add the JLT RAI to it to give it a nice big filter, 4 inch maf, and 4 inch piping going all the way to the throttle body. I've yet to pull the headlight, but the CAI kit gave me almost 3mph gain at the 1/8 mile track..... Consistantly.

Granted, this is an '03 cobra, but they work the same.

Cobra4me
01-02-2005, 12:09 AM
thanks to all for your opinions on the endless list of CAI,s out there. I like the fact that the tunable induction system is not metal and will not conduct heat like the metal ones. I will see for myself I guess. Right now the fact that I have had the car only a month I am well satisfied with the HP since I just sold my 99 V6 mustang convertible. So right now it is like being in rocket in comparison.

RobK

Firme
01-02-2005, 03:27 AM
RobK

JLT is also not metal... check them out as the link is posted on the first page. Just make sure you don't have a Strut Tower Brace.

Josh.. I agree with you on the Densecharger bends, but keep in mind both Tunable Inductions and JLT make a under hood kit. As far as the in Fender, JLT has a better design on the Maf at filter with no bends, but with tunable inductions, as long as you order the Pro-M with system, you can chose either no bends or 1 bend in the MAF calibration (2 bends will still cause problems)

:dunno: alot of choices, I'm just throwing our variables.

smashedheadcat
01-02-2005, 06:41 AM
I guess I'm not familiar with Tunable Inductions...... But, that'll happen. :) Thanks for the info on it.

Firme
01-02-2005, 01:14 PM
I guess I'm not familiar with Tunable Inductions...... But, that'll happen. :) Thanks for the info on it.Tunable Inductions is the new name for Densecharger... they changed the name of the system and made a few design/configuration changes basically. I totally did not even consider them originally due to what you were talking about... the bends causing metering problems, but recently I looked them up again, and saw they made improvements. They still have the two bend system, but admit it won't meter right in certain circumstances, and they offer the Pro-M MAF calibrated for 1 bend to allow you to run one turn without a problem, and also the under hood (similar to the RAI) but the filter does not offer the open end on the Green filter like the JLT RAI offers on the S&B filter.

www.demolet.com (http://www.demolet.com)

sorry for making it all so complicated :(

smashedheadcat
01-02-2005, 05:57 PM
sorry for making it all so complicated :(

Thanks for the info on it. Sounds like a good system if the problem is solved.

NO 5 OH
01-05-2005, 12:55 AM
I actually had an RAI painted mineral grey that I bought from JLT that I have to send back because it will not go on the car with my MM strut tower brace.

Firme,

What exactly was wrong with the RAI that it wouldn't fit the MM strut tower brace? I thought about changing my cold air to the JLT piece but never decided/hesitated to do so as he said it wouldn't clear the MM strut tower brace on the 03/04's. I sat the brace down on my car over Christmas and it looked like there was enough room to have a 4" pipe ran in to the TB. I know my mounting location to the TB would be different but I'm curious as to why your's wouldn't clear... if you don't mind me asking ;)

Shannon <--- owns the "arrest me red" colored Cobra :)

Firme
01-05-2005, 01:23 AM
Shannon,

The triangle made by the strut tower, valve cover, and the strut tower brace, are just big enough to fit the 4" pipe, however, the angle the pipe fits, will not allow the pipe to mate with the rubber part comming off of the throttle body. The pipe is off and at the wrong angle.

for me, open track and twisties take precedence over ~10 hp so.. :(

its a good looking setup though

NO 5 OH
01-06-2005, 01:13 AM
Shannon,

The triangle made by the strut tower, valve cover, and the strut tower brace, are just big enough to fit the 4" pipe, however, the angle the pipe fits, will not allow the pipe to mate with the rubber part comming off of the throttle body. The pipe is off and at the wrong angle.

for me, open track and twisties take precedence over ~10 hp so.. :(

its a good looking setup though

I see said the blind man to the deaf man on the phone ;);)

You have any thoughts as to whether or not JLT's kit would fit the 03 with the MM strut tower brace? I haven't installed it yet... but I've got this damn buzzing rattle in the center A/C vents that I was hoping the strut tower brace might fix. It's coming from the harmonics of the LT's under the car. I know you'd just be speculating but I value your opinion :thumbsup:

Man I've got a slew of parts to put on the Cobra that need to go on... and a lot of it from our favorite manufacturer :D

Shannon

InfamousSVT
01-06-2005, 01:46 AM
I have the JLT RAI in Comp Orange on my 04' and for the time being it's fine, but I'm going to get the piping from JLT to convert it to a CAI! Reason is for the Cold air from the fender and a much better horsepower increase! But either way, with the increase air flow the SuperCharger sure does scream!!!!!:D

Firme
01-06-2005, 07:41 AM
I see said the blind man to the deaf man on the phone ;);)

You have any thoughts as to whether or not JLT's kit would fit the 03 with the MM strut tower brace? I haven't installed it yet... but I've got this damn buzzing rattle in the center A/C vents that I was hoping the strut tower brace might fix. It's coming from the harmonics of the LT's under the car. I know you'd just be speculating but I value your opinion :thumbsup:

Man I've got a slew of parts to put on the Cobra that need to go on... and a lot of it from our favorite manufacturer :D

Shannon
I would email or PM Tucker on here and as about the fitment on an 03 with the MM STB, but my guess would be it will not fit. Now, as far as the buzzing, is it from the A/C vents or the LT's? Either way, the STB will prolly not be the fix for it. The STB wil however make the car alot more responsive and rigid up front. You can really tell that you not flexing the strut towers under hard turns after install, especially if you get coil-overs.

As far as the buzzing, if its comming from the plastic middle vents, some have had luck taking the piece out, and installing O-rings between the vents and the modling.

MM parts make me giddy like a little school girl :bounce:

NO 5 OH
01-06-2005, 10:11 PM
MM parts make me giddy like a little school girl :bounce:

Hey now... I didn't really need to know this ;);)

I actually did ask Tucker about this when I was considering buying his cold air kit, and he said it wouldn't fit. I looked on MM's website last night sometime after I sent my last reply and looked at the instructions for the 01 Cobras. I can see indeed what you were talking about the ram air not fitting due to the strut tower brace. I'm thinking like the boot that connects his CAI to the TB comes right at the end of the front of the STB on the 03's... plus there's a slight bit of room above it for extra clearance.

I guess I need to talk Tony into driving "Mr. Chrome" to the carting event this weekend up in NC and bringing my STB with me. Since he has the JLT kit this will be a "without a doubt" way of knowing if Tucker's kit will fit with the brace.

The vents buzz off and on... they're mainly due to the harmonics produced by the exhaust/long tube headers. I guess I'll see if I can take care of that ;) My worst problem now it seems is dragging the convertible x-brace on a lot of things since putting the H&R's on it about two monts ago :o



Shannon

tEk
01-21-2005, 04:57 PM
JLT all they way.:) cant wait till Custom Tune.hope to see more outta this badboy :thumbsup:

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knickles8072
02-24-2016, 02:32 PM
Not sure if I am posing this in the right place but I am looking for an original Mach 460 cassette and cd player for my 1997 cobra. I have checked on ebay and a couple of mustang salvage places but no luck. Does anyone know where I could possibly find this?

cobrabitn
02-25-2016, 09:32 PM
You're posting this in the wrong place. Are you on facebook?