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Admiral
02-11-2005, 10:08 AM
With the new NASA and SCCA regulations requiring tow hooks/loops, I can't seem to find any information about who sources these? Basically, I'm a non-welder and non-fabricator type and I'm looking for some help in this area.

I can't beleive I'm the only one out there who needs help getting some tow loops or hooks installed? BTW, I'm running a SN95.

I'd love to find those fold-down little red loops like on the Multi-matic "boy racer" cars.........

johnbasf
02-11-2005, 10:52 AM
Mike, shoot Multi-matic an e-mail and see where they get theirs.

johnbasf
02-11-2005, 11:06 AM
I've seen some guys use a good size eyebolt. I would think a 5/8" eyebolt would be plenty strong. Get one long enough and drill through your bumper tube.

RheacerDave
02-11-2005, 11:20 AM
I use a length of chain for the front. Requires a hole in the bumper cover.

Loop it over the 5mph tube and let it hang about 3 or 4 inches. On the back, I have a length of old seat belt attached just like you would seat belt with H bracket and floor plate. Attached at back of trunk frame and again on bottom of bumper so it pulls in 2 places.
Thought about a axle shackle out the license plate area, too.
I've had to use the chain 3 or 4 times:rolleyes: , and it works fine.

Admiral
02-11-2005, 12:00 PM
Mike, shoot Multi-matic an e-mail and see where they get theirs.

Haha, I wouldn't know who or where to email them at. You know of a contact person over there? Seems to me that everyone has come up with their own version - maybe a market niche developing here? Maybe not.

Thanks for the info thus far!

Mystic_Cobra
02-19-2005, 08:41 PM
I sent an email to the two guys listed in the Contact section on the Multimatic Mustang web page. I'll post here when I hear back.

RheacerDave
02-20-2005, 10:04 AM
I've got a buddy that is an engineer for Multimatic, I'll ask him.
I had asked him about the SEMA car and he said there was no plans to build anything like it. Just an engineering one-off.
There were several at Daytona GS-ST that had similar one, though.
About 1/2 way down is sort of what I use on the rear
http://www.racepad.com/racing/racepad_e36m3/specs/safety/safety.htm
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html/show_category.asp?txtsearchParamCat=E36M3

Admiral
02-21-2005, 07:50 AM
Thanks for the info/replies. I may just use axle straps, a guy here in TX did a good job cutting them in half and looping them over a bumper support, then stitching the loop back to itself. That way you have something soft hanging out the front, can tape it down until needed.

Unless of course Multimatic has a "straight out of the box" answer. Since I'm no welder this is a tough problem for me to tackle.

RheacerDave
02-21-2005, 09:15 AM
Rob says MultiMatic made everything on the car. I emailed him again this AM to see if the hooks were for sale.

RheacerDave
02-21-2005, 10:55 PM
Good News!! Buy a MultiMatic GrandAmerican GT car ($120,000 turn key) and get a FREE tow hook.

Serious, look in the Ford Racing Catalog online. Should be added soon.
http://www.fordracingparts.com/announcements/news15.asp

Dean95CobraR
02-22-2005, 01:14 PM
This is what I just bought for my AI car.
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/ProductDetails.asp?RecId=620
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/Images/L/2353.JPG

Cobra-R
02-22-2005, 01:18 PM
This is what I just bought for my AI car.
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/ProductDetails.asp?RecId=620
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/Images/L/2353.JPG

Dean,
Do you have an idea how your going to mount them?

Brian

Dean95CobraR
02-23-2005, 09:53 AM
Dean,
Do you have an idea how your going to mount them?

Brian

I've already mounted them but I don't have any pictures. I ended up going through the rear bumber cover so I doubt you will want to do that on the R. On the front, I ended up bolting it to the underside of the bumper beam. You can access it through one of the slots in the front bumper.

I think I may be installing them in Marc's car this weekend so I will try to take some pictures.

Admiral
02-23-2005, 11:44 AM
So far those look like the best solution. Please post any pics you may get for those like me who can't seem to get a handle on this install - and THANKS for sharing the info!!!

wreckm
02-23-2005, 12:23 PM
Go to the other thread"03 Champ car for sale" and look at the loop we made and put on! It is simple and is useable from front or rear. It simly attaches to the rollcage above the driver and sticks through the roof!

Dean95CobraR
02-28-2005, 12:39 PM
Here are a few pics of the tow hook install.

Dean95CobraR
02-28-2005, 12:43 PM
Couple more pics.

Dean95CobraR
02-28-2005, 12:47 PM
This worked better on my car than on Marc's because the shape of the rear bumper cover. If I was to do Marc's again, I would move the tube towards the top of the bumper beam. That would have placed the tow hook on a flatter surface. We had to put a few spacers between the hook and the welded in plate because the cover bulges out at that point.

We did the same procedure in the front and I would move it to the top of the bumper beam there also.

Admiral
02-28-2005, 12:47 PM
Dean,

I hate to ask but I'm simply no welder/fabricator. What would it take to get whoever made those mounts to fab a few up for sale? I could then mount my hooks to them and take the assembly to get the base welded to the bumper bracket locally. Not sure if it's something you'd be willing to do or whomever made those. I'd take 3 sets, one fox and two for SN95's if you are interested. Thanks for all the info and the pics!

justagt
02-28-2005, 03:22 PM
Go to the other thread"03 Champ car for sale" and look at the loop we made and put on! It is simple and is useable from front or rear. It simly attaches to the rollcage above the driver and sticks through the roof!

I like this design I like. I plan to do mine the same way and may even paint it bright ass orange in honor of Hoovie!! :)

johnbasf
02-28-2005, 04:04 PM
http://www.gatorsupply.com/nuteyeb.htm A 1/2" x 6" or 8" long would do the trick. Drill a hole in your bumper tube and be done with it. :thumbsup: I'm sure any hardware store would have them. No welding needed.

Mystic_Cobra
02-28-2005, 11:26 PM
Why put these on the corner instead of the center of the bumper?

These look good, but I like the ease of installation with the eyebolt. Of course, I do need a good excuse to get the welder out again since I sold my project car. :D

Dean95CobraR
03-01-2005, 07:40 AM
Dean,

I hate to ask but I'm simply no welder/fabricator. What would it take to get whoever made those mounts to fab a few up for sale? I could then mount my hooks to them and take the assembly to get the base welded to the bumper bracket locally. Not sure if it's something you'd be willing to do or whomever made those. I'd take 3 sets, one fox and two for SN95's if you are interested. Thanks for all the info and the pics!


I wouldn't mind making a few but it really is a custom job. I actually put the bumper foam on and cut the tubing at the correct angle and depth. There's no way I could do that without them installed on the car.

Sorry.

Dean95CobraR
03-01-2005, 07:43 AM
http://www.gatorsupply.com/nuteyeb.htm A 1/2" x 6" or 8" long would do the trick. Drill a hole in your bumper tube and be done with it. :thumbsup: I'm sure any hardware store would have them. No welding needed.


The only thing I don't like about using a long eyebolt is if you would have to be pulled at any kind of angle. You would just bend the eyebolt and rip your bumper cover. If you were sure you would only be pulled straight ahead then I think they would work great. I personally wouldn't trust some of the tow truck guys to care how they pull your car out of the sand trap.

Dean95CobraR
03-01-2005, 07:45 AM
Why put these on the corner instead of the center of the bumper?

These look good, but I like the ease of installation with the eyebolt. Of course, I do need a good excuse to get the welder out again since I sold my project car. :D


I put them as close to the "frame rail" as possible. Also, the foam is not as deep there as it would be in the center.

Admiral
03-01-2005, 09:39 AM
I wouldn't mind making a few but it really is a custom job. I actually put the bumper foam on and cut the tubing at the correct angle and depth. There's no way I could do that without them installed on the car.

Sorry.

Dean, no problem. I'll take your photos and ideas to my fabricator and get him to do the job. You've been a great help and I really appreciate you taking the time to share your solution. I've got 6 of the Pegasus hooks ready so I'll get-r-done soon! I may get him to measure so we can make a few for other racers in my situation. I'll make sure to credit you with the setup when asked.

Thanks again!

RheacerDave
03-01-2005, 04:30 PM
http://www.gatorsupply.com/nuteyeb.htm
fine print at bottom

*Regular nut eye bolts are designed for straight line pull applications only.Never apply load at an angle.
Most aftermarket eyehooks, for tow straps, are reinforced between the shank and eyelet.
50% of the time, you might be ok, but if it snaps, you have a pretty good chunk of metal flying around at the end of a snatch strap. I snapped one years ago I was using as a tiedown. Spend the extra bucks and get something designed to be pulled on.

johnbasf
03-01-2005, 06:20 PM
The shear strength of a 5/8" bolt is 28,000psi. I think that would pull a car. :thumbsup:

RheacerDave
03-03-2005, 10:21 AM
Yes, straight ahead. How many times do you get pulled straight out?

20 years of working F&C, 10 years of racing and I've seen more than one car pulled over on it's side or even top trying to get back to the paddock.
Never seen anyone pulled by just an eyebolt, though.