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Old 08-21-2005, 12:59 PM   #1
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Shelby Cobra for $35K, not a penny more

Hi, I'm a newbie here and the last Ford I owned was a Ford Tempo 1984 (bought used in 1987). So I'm not really a Ford fan. Some of my dislikes for Ford could be attributed to my own ignorance about the Ford Line (can you blame me, after the Tempo experience I did not want to hear Ford any more) and the "uglification" of the Mustang over the past 30 years. However, I have been drawn to the new Mustang (like just about everyone else) in the past year. I did some limited research and realized that I wanted more power than the current GT. I decided that the 07 Cobra (or whatever they are calling it) would be my next car.

I then stumbled on to this site and realized that the rumors are for a huge markup by the "stealers". $100,000? For a Ford?

Not even for the GT. Get real.

I have made the mistake of buying a first run edition twice in the last 5 years. I got my PT Cruiser the first month it came out (piece of crap car even after I put a turbo stage II on it) and I currently own a 2003 Chevy SSR Vin#1725 . I got both at sticker since I had put my name on a list 2 years in advance.

The Cobra 07 is not really a first run but can be treated as one. From experience, I will tell you that the "stealers" will jack the price up 10K initially (remember the TB) but many will sell at sticker. In a year they will be selling it at a considerable discount. Only car enthusiast would want one, the rest will get a GT version of the Mustang. I love my SSR and will probably keep it for a few more years. It still turns heads but I wish I had waited for an 05 to get the extra ponies. (heck it's cruiser not a racer, I keep telling myself)

But to pay 50K for this car is insane let alone $100,000. The C6 Z06 is just around the corner with better performance. The new BMW M5 is coming out next year for about $75k if you need a 4 seater. Lets not talk about the E55 AMG by MB with a price tag around $80K. There are so many many cars I would considerer if I wanted to spend 100K. A Mustang is not one of them.


Now having said that, I would love to own one of these new cobras for 35K and I bet I will get one one year post production.
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:10 PM   #2
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Old 08-26-2005, 12:05 AM   #3
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your on the wrong forum. Do a search on pt cruiser forum
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Old 09-03-2005, 06:12 PM   #4
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$35K Cobra

To bobbys97r:

You Sonny, are not only rude, "you're" illiterate. It's "you're" or "you are", not "your". The guy [unlike you] makes a lot of sense. Ford is fully aware that $50K-100K is out of the question for a Mustang. The car was never designed for that market.....even the Cobra. Be honest, it is a great performer for the money, but in no way, does it have the fit and finish necessary to compete in that price range.

Bottom line: The 2007 Cobra, GT 500, SVT or whatever, is "NOT" a Shelby in any sense of the word. Shelby was paid a few bucks for the use of his name, and a few photo-ops. Shelby didn't design it or build it!!!!! It's a Ford Mustang with a supercharged engine and a bit more attention paid to the drive train......a bit more attention to the quality of the interior. YOU would be a total idiot to pay much more than $40k. Racing stripes and a supercharger are not worth an extra $15,000. My guess is that MSRP will be set at $39K and change. Ford knows it's market!

I bought a new 2004 SVT Cobra for $29K. I Bought a 2004 Premium GT for $21.5K $7.5K for IRS, DOHC supercharged, better built engine, better leather seats, better wheels, better tires, better brakes...... seemed like a fair price to me. But $40K???? Thats pushing the limit!!!!
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Old 09-07-2005, 08:29 AM   #5
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bbrence, amen, brother! The car is good, but it just won't be that good.

Besides, there isn't a soul out there that's going to pay 100,000 for a GT500 (If so, they'd be the biggest moron north of the South Pole). Ford dealers know this too. I agree, there will be a considerable mark-up, just like we're seeing on the Mustang GTs and even V6s. Is the car worth the mark-up? I don't think so, but many do, so they'll sell at the higher price. How much? Probably at least $10K higher, but who cares?

I know this, if someone pays $100,000 (or close to it) for a GT500, they better save a bit of that money to get their head examined.
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To bobbys97r:

You Sonny, are not only rude, "you're" illiterate. It's "you're" or "you are", not "your". The guy [unlike you] makes a lot of sense. Ford is fully aware that $50K-100K is out of the question for a Mustang. The car was never designed for that market.....even the Cobra. Be honest, it is a great performer for the money, but in no way, does it have the fit and finish necessary to compete in that price range.
I agree with your pricing point bbrence - Edit: I was embarrassed by bobby's post.

Nospeedlimit, expect ~$40k out the door. There are always dealerships who mark up +$5k for the right to have the first on the block. The new "Shelby GT500" will be no exception.

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Bottom line: The 2007 Cobra, GT 500, SVT or whatever, is "NOT" a Shelby in any sense of the word. Shelby was paid a few bucks for the use of his name, and a few photo-ops. Shelby didn't design it or build it!!!!! It's a Ford Mustang with a supercharged engine and a bit more attention paid to the drive train......a bit more attention to the quality of the interior. YOU would be a total idiot to pay much more than $40k.~
In this day & age, it most certainly is a Shelby. Carroll was brought in as a consultant & allowed FoMoCo to leverage his name as a result. It's not just a Mustang with stripes & a blower as you suggest. Because of Shelby's input, it's a bit more.

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I guess the 68-70 Shelbys aren't really Shelby's either, by your definition. I'm sure A.O. Smith would disagree...
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If you can't carry on a civilized conversation then you need to continue it off the board either through email or PM.


I believe this thread is about the 07 Shelby GT 500 and pricing...keep it on topic without the personal attacks guys.
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Old 09-10-2005, 08:40 PM   #10
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A "Shelby"?

Well, if it makes you happy to call it a Shelby, go right ahead, BUT the original Shelby group that engineered and built the Cobra and customized the Mustang GT 350R, NO LONGER EXISTS!!! So called "Shelby continuation cars" are built by an entirely different company in Texas. Shelby "consulted" [whatever that means] on the 2007? This concept car was completely designed and built "in house" at Ford Motor company.....as will all the production models. Calling it a Shelby doesn't make it one.......it's called "Marketing"! It's not a bad car, may even be a great car.......but it's a Shelby in name only!
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poor old guy I didnt mean to make him that mid life thing is rough I hear
Oh, I guess that was supposed to make me mad and join in your flame war dribble. Sorry.

It'll be over a decade before I'm even close. It might help if you knew what you were talking about when you posted. I just think it is funny that the 2 year olds I teach exhibit more maturity than those who are a lot older and supposedly smarter that get into petty flaming/arguments and name calling over nothing.

You may want to try www.svtperformance.com I hear they have hundreds of people with nothing better to do than to start silly flame wars and name calling contests. I only wish I had that much spare time on my hands...
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It might help if you knew what you were talking about when you posted. I just think it is funny that the 2 year olds I teach exhibit more maturity than those who are a lot older and supposedly smarter that get into petty flaming/arguments and name calling over nothing.
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