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Old 12-05-2005, 07:19 PM   #1
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Burned dust boots (caliper pistons) AVAILABILITY UPDATE

Well... My caliper piston dust boots are .... GONE.... completely... and totally burned off.... no longer there!!!

I was told by several guys that they had not been able to get dust boots alone... they could not find rebuild kits for our PBR 2 piston Cobra calipers...

NOT TRUE!!!!

GOOD NEWS!!!


They are in fact available... Ford parts # XR3Z-2221-BA LIST PRICE $29.53 Which I believe does both front calipers...

On a more somber note...
I do not recommend Motorcraft Preferred Value pads for open track use...

They will not last the weekend if you happen to be a faster or more aggressive driver than I.

I didn't trash the rotor..... but ooooooh so close!!!!

Another topic...

The extreme amount of taper in the pad wear!!!
There had to be .010" to .020" of difference from the leading edge(the wiped out edge) to the trailing edge(about .050 to.060 left)...

This has got me seriously thinking about those Y2K R calipers.....Hmmmm

1. How many week ends can you get out of those pads?
2. How much is a typical street/track pad?
3. Are they noisy on the street?
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Old 12-05-2005, 07:38 PM   #2
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Well... My caliper piston dust boots are .... GONE.... completely... and totally burned off.... no longer there!!!

3. Are they noisy on the street?
1) I'm not understanding where the caliper dust boot is...
2) From driving RACHEL'S R around....those are not noisy at ALL on the street, you can't even tell they are there UNTILL you touch the brake pedal and those huge clampers crunch those pizza-sized rotors. I'm gonna be purchasing a set of the 2000 R Brembos next year as well.
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Old 12-05-2005, 08:28 PM   #3
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1) I'm not understanding where the caliper dust boot is...
2) From driving RACHEL'S R around....those are not noisy at ALL on the street, you can't even tell they are there UNTILL you touch the brake pedal and those huge clampers crunch those pizza-sized rotors. I'm gonna be purchasing a set of the 2000 R Brembos next year as well.
Rachels has the Brembo Grand Turismo kit on it
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Old 12-05-2005, 08:31 PM   #4
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Rachels has the Brembo Grand Turismo kit on it
yes....or as they call it....the F40 kit.
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Old 12-05-2005, 09:30 PM   #5
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yes....or as they call it....the F40 kit.
Yes ... the one that will not fit under a 17" wheel

I've been really busting the budget lately..
I've got to reel in the spending a little for a while...

I'm still thinking about my brake options...
Fortunately I have a beater to drive while "The Great Cobrini" is on the jack stands again...

Right now the Performance Friction pads from Auto Zone are looking pretty good to me.... Very good bang for the buck factor
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Old 12-06-2005, 12:26 AM   #6
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I was running Hawk HP-T's out there, and although a couple of times I cooked the brakes enough for Marty to warn me to watch my pads I never had any problems braking. Then again I was only hitting 110-115 in the long straights (3.27 gears, stock motor, and most likely less than ideal lines).

I used the Hawk HPS pads at TWS, and those are going back on for street driving since the T's seem to squeal around town.

Running the '03 Cobra pads on the rears.
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Old 12-06-2005, 10:32 AM   #7
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I was running Hawk HP-T's(Could these possibly be the HP+(plus) pads???)(I couldn't find Ts on the web site) out there, and although a couple of times I cooked the brakes enough for Marty to warn me to watch my pads I never had any problems braking. Then again I was only hitting 110-115 in the long straights (3.27 gears, stock motor, and most likely less than ideal lines).

I used the Hawk HPS pads at TWS, and those are going back on for street driving since the T's seem to squeal around town.

Running the '03 Cobra pads on the rears.(I've still got about 1/2 a rear OEM set left... I'll put these back on for the next track event ... and finish the Motorcrafts on the street--less dust)
I may try the blues or blacks for track only... just to see how they are... then put something more rotor friendly back on for street...
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:18 PM   #8
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Yes, they were the HP-Plus pads. I think the pads themselves were marked HP-T, but the part number was HP-Plus.
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Old 12-07-2005, 10:10 AM   #9
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Hawk Blacks on my stock rotors work great for track.
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Old 12-09-2005, 02:22 PM   #10
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Jimmy, I have the upgrade Brembo brakes on my 03 with Hawk pads. I have done three events and they still have a ways to go. As you get faster on the tracks you will use your brakes less. The hawks are a little noisey for street use. I love have they stop with out using hard pressure. It is not a cheap upgrade about $1100 should cover the cost, but well worth the expense if you plan to do a lot of events.
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Old 12-09-2005, 03:56 PM   #11
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Jimmy, I have the upgrade Brembo brakes on my 03 with Hawk pads. I have done three events and they still have a ways to go. As you get faster on the tracks you will use your brakes less. The hawks are a little noisey for street use. I love have they stop with out using hard pressure. It is not a cheap upgrade about $1100 should cover the cost, but well worth the expense if you plan to do a lot of events.
The Brembo upgrade is a future upgrade I am VERY $ERIOUSLY considering....

Because the faster you go ... we may be using them for a briefer period of time... but we are most likely on them harder...
My braking was very different from TWS....
This time it was more like.... wait ....wait... little touch and slight turn... then HARD BRAKE!!! and HARD TURN!!!
If I went slower I would be using less brake and more coast downs... as it is now I could be alot faster with some sticky tires and some better brakes...$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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Old 12-09-2005, 06:26 PM   #12
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Forget the dust boots man, you'll just keep burning them off now that you're a track addict!
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Old 12-09-2005, 07:33 PM   #13
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Forget the dust boots man, you'll just keep burning them off now that you're a track addict!
LOL I was wondering if I was going to get one of those comments

And how appropriate that it would come from you!!! Monster Mike!!!

It's not a daily driver... so I suppose it's not a big deal... It always gets fresh fluid before it gets whooped on anyway...

Which calipers are you running Mike???
The Brembo 4pots.(Cobra R) , PBR(Cobra) 2 pots... or something else...(Stoptech, Wilwood, Alcon, ???)
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Old 12-09-2005, 11:51 PM   #14
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I've got the Brembo's (2000 R) and love them. When you make as many mistakes per lap as I do it pays to have that stopping power working for ya. Keeps the "Oh Sweet Jesus" prayers down to a manageable level in a 20 minute session lol.
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Old 12-10-2005, 12:31 AM   #15
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I've got the Brembo's (2000 R) and love them. When you make as many mistakes per lap as I do it pays to have that stopping power working for ya. Keeps the "Oh Sweet Jesus" prayers down to a manageable level in a 20 minute session lol.
Thanks!!!
Those are the ones I'm leaning toward... I like being able to run a 17" OE style wheel over them... and 17" tires are cheaper than 18" ALL DAY LONG!!!

BTW Could have fooled me on the mistakes per lap issue..

NOT READILY APPARENT TO ME...
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