SCMC Message Forum  
Go Back   SCMC Message Forum > SVT Platforms > SVT Cobra R
User Name
Password

Register FAQ Members List SCMC Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 11-04-2003, 11:47 PM   #1
mustangmad
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: s.w. florida
Posts: 27
Send a message via AIM to mustangmad
Cobra R mods - MORE POWER!

Looking for some suggestions! My 95 Cobra R needs "MORE POWER". The 351 has stock everything except SVO aluminum heads and a custom chip. Exhaust is Bassani off road X pipe with Flows. Power is 295 at the rear wheels and would really like 350+ without going too far into the motor.

Suggestions! Mass Air? Throttle body? Cold air kit? Injectors? If so, whose product and what size? What about extrude honing the intake? Is it worth the cost? Port and polishing the heads is another possibility.

Really appreciate any suggestions from you guys (girls?) with experience modifying the 5.8!!! Thanks in advance.

Dean S.
__________________
Dean S
'95 Cobra R #82
retired IMSA/SCCA car
mustangmad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2003, 01:13 PM   #2
Cobra-R
Super Moderator
 
Cobra-R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: minn-e-soda
Posts: 8,925
Send a message via AIM to Cobra-R
Re: Cobra R mods - MORE POWER!

Quote:
Originally posted by mustangmad
Looking for some suggestions! My 95 Cobra R needs "MORE POWER". The 351 has stock everything except SVO aluminum heads and a custom chip. Exhaust is Bassani off road X pipe with Flows. Power is 295 at the rear wheels and would really like 350+ without going too far into the motor.

Suggestions! Mass Air? Throttle body? Cold air kit? Injectors? If so, whose product and what size? What about extrude honing the intake? Is it worth the cost? Port and polishing the heads is another possibility.

Really appreciate any suggestions from you guys (girls?) with experience modifying the 5.8!!! Thanks in advance.

Dean S.
I am in the same boat, Dean. I am totally stock and want to change heads and have been told to do a cam also. Supposedly should be in the 325-350 hp range, but I want to also maintain the flat power curve we have already. I am 269 rwhp now.

Brian
__________________
Brian Groth
2006 NASA Midwest AI Champion
2005 NASA Midwest AI champion
2011 BMW M3
2010 Camaro SS
2008 Corvette Z06
2000 Cobra R #131 of 300
1995 Cobra R #23 (AV8SS and NASA AI #23)
I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message...
Cobra-R is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2003, 12:36 AM   #3
Racer_726
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Arizona
Posts: 36
Dave Schotz has a lot of nice mods, and he keeps it ESP legal with the Ford TSB heads. He has around 400 ft/lbs of torque at the rear wheels. He's put a lot of research into which intake to use as well.

From another forum:

Quote:
Originally posted by Dave Schotz

In 2003 the Car won 4 Pro Solo's 3 National Tours, and won Both the OVER ALL PRO SOLO CHAMPIONSHIP as well as the Solo 2 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP

Car has been modified to the limit of ESP Rules, including the Ford TSB Aluminum Y303 Heads, Moton Double Adjustable Front Struts, Penske Double Adjustable Rear Shocks, Ford TSB Subframe Connectors, 2 sets of Bogart Ultra Lightweight Wheels, 1 set of Factory Cobra R wheels with the original BFG Tires, 2 Corbeau Racing Seats, Momo wheel, Trick Flow intake, Kooks Custom Headers, T2R Diff, Lightweight Clutch, Flywheel & Pressure Plate, 3.55 gears, MSD Digital 6 ignition, and too many other items to list I am sure...
There's also a really good article in Hot Rod Feb. 1998 about having an 11.1 compression NA 87 octane 400HP 351 with Factory EFI. They basically use stock block, 400 rods, JE pistons, Crane roller cam, Twisted Wedge R heads... or something. See if the local library has that one.

Good luck,

Dave
Racer_726 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2003, 10:22 AM   #4
mustangmad
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: s.w. florida
Posts: 27
Send a message via AIM to mustangmad
I'm sure we could build a pretty potent engine (400HP+) from the block up, a 392 stroker is my dream. But my budget says to keep it relatively simple (and cheap) for now.

If bolt-ons like an MAF and new TB with a cold air kit can add 20 or 30 HP to a 5.0, shouldn't it do about the same on a 5.8? Throw in a little head work and that should add close to 50 HP.
BINGO!

So the question is; Which and what size Throttle body? And MAF? Most everyone seems to like the WMS cold air kit, right? Brian you have Dean Smeltzer's '95 R, I believe? Didn't he add the WMS? Are you happy with it?

As always, I appreciate you-alls opinions.

Dean S
__________________
Dean S
'95 Cobra R #82
retired IMSA/SCCA car
mustangmad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2003, 07:50 PM   #5
Cobra-R
Super Moderator
 
Cobra-R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: minn-e-soda
Posts: 8,925
Send a message via AIM to Cobra-R
Quote:
Originally posted by mustangmad
Brian you have Dean Smeltzer's '95 R, I believe? Didn't he add the WMS? Are you happy with it?


Dean S
Right, I do have Deans 95. I am not sure what brand cold air kit it has, but WMS does sound right. The only other thing done to it is the air pump has been removed and it has Bassani catless X(besides the timing advanved to 14 degrees). Dean Dyno'd at 269hp and 339 tq if I remember right. (I have the dyno sheet at home)

Any idea what 95's are dynoing completely stock? I would be curious to find out if the three simple mods are really doing much.

Brian
__________________
Brian Groth
2006 NASA Midwest AI Champion
2005 NASA Midwest AI champion
2011 BMW M3
2010 Camaro SS
2008 Corvette Z06
2000 Cobra R #131 of 300
1995 Cobra R #23 (AV8SS and NASA AI #23)
I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message...
Cobra-R is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2003, 11:25 AM   #6
95cobraR
Registered User
 
95cobraR's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 169
Quote:
Originally posted by Cobra-R
Any idea what 95's are dynoing completely stock? I would be curious to find out if the three simple mods are really doing much.

Brian
Alot more than yeller Z06's! How come you list Fred's fast '03 in your sig?
__________________
1995 Cobra R #113
1969 and 2014 Porsche 911 Carrera
13 Year SCMC member
95cobraR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2003, 05:32 PM   #7
Cobra-R
Super Moderator
 
Cobra-R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: minn-e-soda
Posts: 8,925
Send a message via AIM to Cobra-R
Quote:
Originally posted by 95cobraR
Alot more than yeller Z06's! How come you list Fred's fast '03 in your sig?
Woops.
__________________
Brian Groth
2006 NASA Midwest AI Champion
2005 NASA Midwest AI champion
2011 BMW M3
2010 Camaro SS
2008 Corvette Z06
2000 Cobra R #131 of 300
1995 Cobra R #23 (AV8SS and NASA AI #23)
I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message...
Cobra-R is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:04 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 1999-2017 SCMC, Inc