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Old 02-22-2004, 08:54 PM   #1
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Hey Bannana Man!!! - Question -

Are you TIG or MIG welding your cages? I find nothing in any rule books (I think NHRA cages with chrome moly have to be TIGed). Everyone else just says "Arc" welded......
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Old 02-22-2004, 10:52 PM   #2
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I've MIG welded all my past cages, but I think most of my future cages will be TIG welded. Not because it's any better than MIG, I just like the way the welds look and I feel like it has a little more control than the MIG. I'll still use the MIG for things like SFC's because of the larger gaps that need to be filled.

I don't know of any rules that say the cage must be either TIG or MIG. NASCAR even MIG's their's because of the speed requirement of fabrication for their cars.
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Old 02-23-2004, 03:11 PM   #3
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Tom, I hate to say this but if you beleive this:

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Not because it's any better than MIG
you need to go back and read more welding books....
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You misunderstood me...

What I meant was that it is not the reason I am partial to TIG over MIG. I stated my reasons for TIG preference which is NOT because of the quality of the weld. MIG is a perfectly acceptable method of welding for roll cages except for when using chrome moly.
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Old 02-23-2004, 03:26 PM   #5
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Tom, I hate to say this but if you beleive this:



you need to go back and read more welding books....
Tell us what you've read Mr. Tone. I really need to hear this. I will be grading you on your answer.
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Old 02-23-2004, 03:35 PM   #6
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John, first i'll grade your post:

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I really need to hear this
you should hang your head in shame........

second, you should know by now that I rarely answer questions. I simply pose them. To quote a famous movie "I know nothing, I am merely the messanger."

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John, first i'll grade your post:



you should hang your head in shame........
What???
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Old 02-23-2004, 03:38 PM   #8
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John, I think you and I both know Mr. Tone well enough to know that it'll be a year before you ever get an answer out of him. It's probably a Ford trade secret or something.
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I'll check this again next Feb.
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By the way, you can safely weld a 4130 ChroMoly cage with a MIG machine......

Is that good enough?
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I know you can. There are people out there that are doing it. But my limited knowledge of it says that the TIG creates a smaller heat affected zone which is better for heat treating after the weld.

And that doesn't even come close to answering John's question...
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What's john's question?

John, by the way did you ever come up with those numbers I wanted from you?
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What's john's question?

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Tell us what you've read Mr. Tone. I really need to hear this. I will be grading you on your answer.
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You should know that I never read and tell.......
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What's john's question?

John, by the way did you ever come up with those numbers I wanted from you?
???? HP #'s ?? 302/302
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